The entity finally got pissed off at being beaten intellectually
He sent about twenty other people and myself this nice series of notes in the e-mail. I went through their profiles based on their e-mail addresses. All were women, most seemingly strong-minded. This just proves my theory that hatred comes from ignorance, so keep on learning Citizens of Earth until stuff like this gets wiped off the face off of our beloved planet. One profile had this url and I think this site makes a point more so than anything I can write here. Though it has free speech, its kind of ignorance cannot be allowed to thrive. Jingoism breeds this…
Finally, I can move on with my life…I’m apparently a monkey too but then again, so are we all who strive for wisdom and knowledge for the monkey is one of the wisest of creatures and even Hanuman was favored by the Gods for his wisdom and ability to learn.
Incidentally, the authorities have been notified. If it had just be a ‘polite’ piss off note, I could accept it but the ‘DIE NOW!’ bit warrants investigation given this entities history. Now, I don’t know about y’all but these are the kinds of Bush supporters I’ve been running into a lot. I know they all can’t be like this! I will not judge all of this group based on my bad experiences with a few individuals. People like this are giving Bush supporters a bad name and I’m saying this as a reminder and heads up to what is being done and said in your name Bush people.
|GO TO HELL
DON’T WANNA HEAR ANYTHING FROM YOU AGAIN
DAMN YOU!!!!!!!!!!!! DAMN!!!!!!!!!
YOU’RE A FUCKIN’ SHIT!
|YOU FUCKIN’ SHIT
GO TO HELL
DON’T WANNA HEAR FROM YOU ANYMORE!
HEY FUCKIN’ ASSHOLE
WAKE UP, WAKE UP
YOUR MOTHER IS A BITCH
BOTH OF YOU MUST BE ON HELL NOW
YOU SOUNDS SO BORRING AND NONSENSE!
SO YOU BETTER FUCK OFF! UNDERSTAND?
YOU’RE A BULLSHIT MONKEY
A much less disturbing update: The Military is investigating the story of the Chaplain. I am fervently hoping that this is not true or is blown out of proportion in some way. Thanks to the Military and free thinking people who ensure the rights and protections of all our soldiers and citizens! :o) This is a bit more proof that the truth usually comes out with a bit of thorough investigation. This is the way of rational people.
|April 8, 2003, 12:35AM INVESTIGATION
Pool dip offered in return for baptism
By ROSANNA RUIZ
Copyright 2003 Houston ChronicleA chaplain from Houston assigned to the Army V Corps support unit in Iraq is now the focus of an Army inquiry for his practice of offering soldiers a dip into his 500-gallon pool if they agree to be baptized.A newspaper article about Josh Llano, 32, generated numerous e-mails and phone calls, said Lt. Col. Eric Wester, a chaplain and spokesman for the Chaplain Corps based in Virginia.
Wester said the article, and the response, got the immediate attention of the corps’ chief, Maj. Gen. Gaylord T. Gunhus, who has requested that top chaplain officials looked into whether the article was accurate. “The chief was immediately concerned about the nature of this article and negative reflection that it casts,” Wester said. “The question then arose to what degree is the information in the article accurate. The content of the article clearly raises immediate questions.”
One question is how did the chaplain get access to 500 gallons of water, which Wester said was “unusually large” for a baptismal pool. Also, the article indicated that a water shortage kept the soldiers from bathing for weeks. Wester said he was not sure whether the unit Llano is assigned to indeed lacks water.
He said the unit is supposed to be a support unit whose mission is to resupply troops. Wester also noted that chaplains do not typically receive their own supply of water.
Wester would not say what punishment, if any, could be taken if Llano indeed did do what the article described. He said the chief wants more information before any action is taken.
He said Gunhus’ response can be read two ways.
“It’s good in the sense that it shows his commitment to the standards we have about free exercise of religion,” Wester said. “It’s bad because it’s bringing very negative public perception on Army chaplaincy.” Monday’s Miami Herald article described how Llano required the soldiers to first listen to an 1 1/2-hour sermon in his dirt-floor tent. The actual baptism took an hour as Llano read from the Bible.
Llano, who described himself in the article as a Southern Baptist evangelist, was quoted as saying: “You have to be aggressive to help people find themselves in God.”
Wester said, “As I’ve read the article and discussed with other chaplains, the implication of the story is this was a kind of situation of coercion or bribery.”
The story generated outrage online — one person who posted a message on one Web site described the article as “disturbing.” Another unidentified person posted a letter addressed to Gunhus that cited the Army’s requirement that chaplains be “sensitive to religious pluralism and be able to provide for the free exercise of religion.”
“It is my hope and my request that you will take immediate action to put an end to Chaplain Llano’s tactics and remind him of his obligation,” the e-mail stated.
Wester said many of the e-mails to Gunhus echoed the same sentiment and seemed to read like a chain letter. He said chaplains are required to abide by the First Amendment right of freedom of religion.
“It’s very important and absolutely critical chaplains uphold the highest standard in terms of respect for not only performing rites and sacraments of their own faith, but providing for religious needs of all in that area of operation,” Wester said.
He could not answer how long Llano has served as a chaplain or provide other details about his background.
In other news, I just got done watching the PBS program Peter and Paul and the Christian Revolution. My mother seems really shocked by both the historical things not usually talked about during bible study or the fact that I, as a Pagan, knew most of the story and was able to explain it from a political and historical perspective.
I think I earned a whole new degree of respect from her though she does still try to convert me on a weekly basis. I’m trying to be patient with her but it does get annoying to have “Why don’t you come back?” hemming in on all sides. I just smile and keep explaining that I don’t feel that path is a valid one for me. I don’t want to proselytize and short of getting into a philosophical argument, its all I can do.
Since I’ve grown in my spirituality though, I’ve been more about study and less about dealing with the proof that I am not the religions people expect me to be. To me, my belief is profound and deeply touching, often prodding me to reflect on life in general as well as my own personal growth in a way I’ve never experienced before. I’ve been Pagan since the age of 13, though no one ‘really’ took me seriously at the time and have been studying more since that time. At first, I did everything I could to defend my beliefs against people who would try to lay claim to my soul or body to their own belief but I gave up trying after I turned 16 when it came to me that in the end, it was only my belief that mattered to me. Only I could see through my eyes, no one else. The people who wanted so desperately, and sometimes violently, to convince me that their way was better kind of put a mirror up for me to show me the futility of trying to ‘prove’ the validity of faith to anyone.
No matter how much you reason, scream, shout, discuss, or just plain sigh, the people who are arguing against you will always be convinced that you’re wrong because they ‘know’ they’re right. You’ll always be convinced that you’re right for you, though you’re willing to acknowledge that their path may be the right one for them. The only thing this does is make them try harder to ‘change’ you over to their side because they see a niche where there isn’t one with which they think that they can ‘bring you back into the fold’.
I admire the dedication, but think it could be put to a much better use than annoying the hell out of people IMHO. Go volunteer your time and use that energy to help others or grow a garden and give the food to a neighbor who is going without due to hard circumstance. Meals on Wheels needs a lot of good volunteers for instance, and I’m sure they would gladly accept someone willing to help out the community.
Another thing proselytizers could do is learn the word ‘No’ when they hear it.
I’ve had quite a few experiences where I was forced to take a pamphlet, literally, when someone slipped it in my bag. I had experience where someone decided to stick their foot in my door, thinking I was nice enough not to keep on closing the door. Lucky for them, they moved their foot in time.
Most people just want to live in peace. Harassment and fearmongering are not conducive to peaceful interrelations. I just wish people could understand that.